DeanOs:
How is YOUR world? I'll bet it's better than it has ever been!
I rest my case ...
of course anyone not a jw is "worldly""...i think that mentally this is the hardest part to overcome if you are born in..... you should have seen the look on my wife's face recently when i told her that i feel that things are prob about as good as it gets.....no evil wicked system of things exists........ ya..... i know times are tough here in usa as far as employment.....but damm....this ain't like the great depression or wwi or ww2!!
!.......life in the middle ages used to be 38 years......now it is 88 years!!!.......
i can walk just about any neighborhood without fear...if the "world" were as bad as they say...there would be a prisons every 1000 meters!!!
DeanOs:
How is YOUR world? I'll bet it's better than it has ever been!
I rest my case ...
of course anyone not a jw is "worldly""...i think that mentally this is the hardest part to overcome if you are born in..... you should have seen the look on my wife's face recently when i told her that i feel that things are prob about as good as it gets.....no evil wicked system of things exists........ ya..... i know times are tough here in usa as far as employment.....but damm....this ain't like the great depression or wwi or ww2!!
!.......life in the middle ages used to be 38 years......now it is 88 years!!!.......
i can walk just about any neighborhood without fear...if the "world" were as bad as they say...there would be a prisons every 1000 meters!!!
AMEM oompa !!!
The most important observation I have seen on this site ....
Until one reaches that understanding, recovery is not possible
THANX
why are you happy,to be on jwn?................................outlaw.
I am relatively happy since acknowledging that for many years I have not been so. I have now reached a neutral plateau of contentment. Whether true happiness from this point on is a possibility remains to be seen. I have not yet totally assessed past emotional damages. Time will tell ...
dear satan:.
for fifty years i have attempted to serve an opposing god.
the results have been mental illness, alcoholism, and constant thoughts of suicide.
GromitSK:
GOOD POINT! Satan, I'll settle for free porn and "Two Buck Chuck."
dear satan:.
for fifty years i have attempted to serve an opposing god.
the results have been mental illness, alcoholism, and constant thoughts of suicide.
Dear Satan:
For fifty years I have attempted to serve an opposing God. The results have been mental illness, alcoholism, and constant thoughts of suicide. I now find myself old, broke, and of little value.
I would like to offer you a deal to "sell you my soul." I have been told the entire world is under your power and some say that you have been living on earth since 1914.
So ... I will trade you my alligence for worldly goods. Whats a few million dollars, a few beautiful babes and a constant supply of Tennessee whiskey to you.
If you make the deal, I will tell everyone that you exist and that you DO have power. Of course, if you don't exist ... you can't do anything ... then I guess I have wasted more time seeking another omnipotent fraud who never was at all.
I'll be watching the mail
Your potential servant ...
you have been unquestionably offended by a family member (spouse, children, parents, inlaws).
the family member refuses to see your side or admit any responsibility.
under what corcumstances will it be in your best interest either to ignor the situation, express your anger, or somehow demand justice?
You have been unquestionably offended by a family member (Spouse, children, parents, inlaws). The family member refuses to see your side or admit any responsibility. Under what corcumstances will it be in your best interest either to ignor the situation, express your anger, or somehow demand justice? Are there times when venting about it to others outside the family brings relief?
This has happened to me dozens of times!
i would like to know from everyone first of all what they think the difference is between a df'd person and a da'd person.. i would also like to know what everyone thinks that jw's think is the difference between a df'd and da'd person.. personally i am df'd.
i was df'd 10 years ago almost and did not argue it at all as i had no desire to continue as a jw anyway.
before being df'd i was always under the impression that if a person da'd themselves it almost always meant they were " apostate" and that there was no way a jw should have any contact with them.
C. T. Russell:
Anyone can sue anyone else for anything ... It's not whether the WBTS wins or looses a challenge ... it's the time and legal costs of litigation in addition to the public relation risk that they wish to avoid. Imagine what we would post on this site if a case came to court alleging damages to an ex-JW ... regardless of the outcome
Plus there are always "landmark" cases that change settled law ... it's possible to loose.
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-bitterness25-2009may25,0,4544029.story.
bitterness as mental illness?bitter behavior is so common and deeply destructive that some psychiatrists are urging it be identified as a mental illness under the name post-traumatic embitterment disorder.by shari roan.
and, increasingly, psychiatrists know them.
I have seen this condition in people who have not walked into a KH for 40 years. It appears to be real ...
i would like to know from everyone first of all what they think the difference is between a df'd person and a da'd person.. i would also like to know what everyone thinks that jw's think is the difference between a df'd and da'd person.. personally i am df'd.
i was df'd 10 years ago almost and did not argue it at all as i had no desire to continue as a jw anyway.
before being df'd i was always under the impression that if a person da'd themselves it almost always meant they were " apostate" and that there was no way a jw should have any contact with them.
Quirky1:
I have had conversations with elders who, while not having an opinion as to why, indicated that instructions from GB have already been sent to that effect. I believe my sources would have no reason to fabricate such info ... yet I have no documentation ... Will post if anything cxomes available in print. I might check with andersoninfo
i would like to know from everyone first of all what they think the difference is between a df'd person and a da'd person.. i would also like to know what everyone thinks that jw's think is the difference between a df'd and da'd person.. personally i am df'd.
i was df'd 10 years ago almost and did not argue it at all as i had no desire to continue as a jw anyway.
before being df'd i was always under the impression that if a person da'd themselves it almost always meant they were " apostate" and that there was no way a jw should have any contact with them.
I believe you will find that those 2 terms are being blended for the organization. Here's why .. let's say a judicial commitee DFs someone which leads to extreme mental and economic consequences at home for the banished party. Later, it was be determined that the JC acted inapproriately, incompetently, or with bias ... LAWSUIT TIME ... maybe even up the chain to Bethel ...
So the tric today is to get troubled members to commit spiritual "suicide" by denouncing their faith and thus making it appear that it was their choice. If anything goes wrong on the homefront, too bad ...
The terminology being used is that "so-nd-so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." This willl eventually replace DF and DA ...